Wie kriege ich ein KMX Tornado unter 17kg - Unterstützung gesucht

Minits Lite wiegen fast die Hälfte.
Schwalbe Pro One Super Racer hatte ich im Visier… Kosten zwar 50€/Stück, habe aber bei Reifen und Bremsschuhen noch nie Kompromisse gemacht weil das eine den Kontakt mit der Strasse macht und das Andere dich zum stehen bringt…
Bremse hinten weglassen
Absolut, das alleine sind 300g und ein Klettband ist ja 5 Gramm und bewirkt dasselbe ;)
Absolut aber nicht nur wegen dem Gewicht, auch wegen der Grösse…
kann ich glaube ich wenig bis nichts machen ausser ich baue mir Leichtmetall ist mir aber nicht ganz geheuer
 
Schwalbe Pro One Super Racer hatte ich im Visier…
Die sind noch besser, vor allem bei Nässe.

kann ich glaube ich wenig bis nichts machen ausser ich baue mir Leichtmetall ist mir aber nicht ganz geheuer
Guck mal was die wiegen, vielleicht sind sie schon recht leicht. Wenn sich aber rausstellt dass das massive Klopper sind kann man vielleicht was machen. Die sind ja sogar redundant. Ich bin mal mit nem abgerissenen Hebel (selbst gebaut aus Carbon, etwas zu wenige Lagen) noch 50km gefahren.
 
In 20 Zoll hatt man aber viel mehr auswahl als bei 16 zoll und es könnte sein hier ist sogar die 305mm 16 zoll verbaut, nicht die grossere Brompton version (369?)
Pro One super race is leicht und schnell, aber auch empfindlicher, was man beim Trike wegen kurvenfahrten noch was mehr merkt. Da wurde ich auch ein ersatz Mantel mitnehmen.
 
I get where you are going with light weight and if I had the money (and was a little younger...) I would jump right into the seat of one of Velomo's light sports quads. But I drove a heavy trike in the Basque Country for a few years, a 20/26 T-Tris 26 from Azub. Without motor, with e-assist and then without again. I did not buy a KMX at the time because I had heard bad things about the steering at speed.

I was able to go places with the trike I would not even think about going on an upright and with the stock 3x8 gearing climbed >10% gradients regularly. The LBS owner said I had even managed >20% on one of my rides, it took me a while but I got to the top.

Stats:
- 30 km/h average over a 28 km flat route up the river and back when I was fit (including a section on cycle paths in town)
- 70 km/h + on the long downhill on the main road to the Spanish side (I learnt not to touch the brakes there)
- you learn the side-car cornering technique, on 2 wheels and hanging off the seat, the Col de St Ignace was a lot of fun

So my list:

- 20" wheels on the front with light, folding BMX tyres, Michelin even make tubeless. Rims as wide as possible.
- 26" rear wheel with a 28-559 Conti Grandprix on a wide rim
- 1 x 12 gearing 10-51 GRX for example, then up to you to choose between the 34 or 50 ring manually without a front shifter depending on the terrain. You will probably need a system to take up the chain slack. My guess is that you will drive most everywhere with the 50T ring.

Of course all of that is out of budget but I didn't have one when I bought the trike either. Or when I built my first vélomobile ;) You just have to decide what you need to do in your life...
 
@anotherkiwi, thanks a lot for your comments, very much appreciate. Hope our German colleagues don't mind that I answer in English as it's the least I should be doing...
and was a little younger...
Don't know how old you think I am, as my hair starts to get grey as well
;)
But I drove a heavy trike in the Basque Country for a few years, a 20/26 T-Tris 26 from Azub.
This means you had strong legs, as I know the Basque Country very well and they have "real mountains there", maybe not as long as the Alps, but not less tough...
- 70 km/h + on the long downhill on the main road to the Spanish side (I learnt not to touch the brakes there)
Not sure whether my brain would manage not touching the brakes :ROFLMAO:

I did not buy a KMX at the time because I had heard bad things about the steering at speed.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: what do you mean by "bad things" o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O?!?!?!

Today morning I just was at my local trike store as I need some support for certain things...
Firstly he said, it's "NONE SENSE" what you are doing by upgrading what I have in mind with a KMX Tornado, but on the other hands he :love:because it's complete out of the box thinking...

- 1 x 12 gearing 10-51 GRX for example, then up to you to choose between the 34 or 50 ring manually without a front shifter depending on the terrain.
Will mount a complete Ultegra groupset exceptioning the brakes, as road and MTB compatibility isn't too good for Shimano

- 20" wheels on the front with light, folding BMX tyres, Michelin even make tubeless. Rims as wide as possible.
Why as wide as possible?!?!? I have a BMX and was considering to mount BMX tyres, however finally we might mount Schwalbe Durano as weight puncture perspective they are quite reasonable
- 26" rear wheel with a 28-559 Conti Grandprix on a wide rim
Later today he will try to mount a 28", however we might have to go smaller... Let's see what he will tell me
 
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: what do you mean by "bad things" o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O?!?!?!

When I looked at them a long time ago now, their direct steering did not have such a great reputation. But, from the test on bentrider online:

"I haven’t ridden a KMX for a few years now and I have to say that I’m very impressed with how much they’ve improved in the handling department. High speed stability is good but not outstanding, the turning radius is more than adequate and there isn’t much brake steer to speak of at all. The handling is quick but predictable and makes the Tornado a lot of fun."

Wide rims to better handle the increased lateral forces. See @Marc's trike blog. Think about the forces involved going around roundabouts on 2 wheels and things like that... ;)

I used Maxxis DTH, they drift really nicely on loose surfaces unlike some Shwalbe tyres which just stick then let go unexpectedly with the result you can imagine. Even if you have very sharp reflexes.

If I had a trike for the fun now I would run 38 or 40T at the front and 12 speed 10-51 GRX. Spinout is at about 55 km/h and above that I would just let it run. But the gearing would be low enough to get away from where I live. And back home. At the moment I am learning 2 x 10 and having just one gear change is bliss, my previous VM had a Rohloff... :rolleyes:
 
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