Most comfortable seat? Regardless of manufacturer? Not 100 % satisfied with Bodylink

[rullskidan]

Hello! What are your opinion of the most comfortable seat regardless of manufacturer?

I drive a Streetmachine GTE and Bodylink seat. I have a problem with the shape of the seat. I have pulled it out very far but still I think it puts too much pressure on the upper shoulder area, too much "Banana" shape in other words. I know that Azub already realized this problem and came with a new improved seat in 2022 with a flatter profile. Have anyone converted a Azub seat to fit Velotechnik?

I understand the point of having a "banana" shaped seat if you have it very flat as it will stop you from sliding back when you put force on the pedals but I drive a touring bike with the seat as straight as possible. Am I the only one that has this issue?

 

[Krischan]

Das Beste muss man selber machen... Stangensitz?
oder @roland65 , der macht Dir einen passenden, nur für Dich
Gruß Krischan

 

[Felix]

Ich fand den Sitz von Rans mit am besten!

 

[Niko]

Ich fand den Sitz von Rans mit am besten!

Welchen? Die haben/hatten mindestens vier verschiedene Sorten von Sitzen.

 

[Fanfan]

I think it puts too much pressure on the upper shoulder area, too much "Banana" shape in other words.

Wie groß bist Du denn? Reicht vielleicht der Verstellbereich des Bodylink-Sitzes nicht aus?

 

[Felix]

Welchen? Die haben/hatten mindestens vier verschiedene Sorten von Sitzen.

Das prangere ich an!

 

[Velo-Phil]

I have a long back and I really like the seat of my Flux. I am “only” 183 cm tall, but my back length is 100 cm (total length minus IBL).
I also own an HP Velotechnik bike with a Bodylink seat that is almost at max. There are no problems with that, but I like the seat of my Flux better.
I believe someone previously adapted the Flux seat to an HP Velotechnik bike. But I don't know the thread.

 

[Cars10]

oder @roland65 , der macht Dir einen passenden, nur für Dich

I copy that: http://www.fahrradverkleidung.de/sitz.html

 

[triksy]

I believe someone previously adapted the Flux seat to an HP Velotechnik bike. But I don't know the thread.

I did it the other way round, but it doesn`t helps you now (HP- Netzsitz an Flux S900)...

 

[Fanfan]

I believe someone previously adapted the Flux seat to an HP Velotechnik bike.

Wenn ein lang eingestellter Bodylink-Sitz noch an den Schultern stört, passt der Flux-Holzsitz wahrscheinlich auch nicht gut.
Bei mir (1,85m mit 89cm Innenbeinlänge) endet der in der Mitte der Schulterblätter. Wenn der Rücken noch länger ist, wird der Flux-Sitz oben sicherlich zu wenig Unterstützung bieten.

 

[Velo-Phil]

Wenn ein lang eingestellter Bodylink-Sitz noch an den Schultern stört, passt der Flux-Holzsitz wahrscheinlich auch nicht gut.
Bei mir (1,85m mit 89cm Innenbeinlänge) endet der in der Mitte der Schulterblätter. Wenn der Rücken noch länger ist, wird der Flux-Sitz oben sicherlich zu wenig Unterstützung bieten.

Ich bin zwar insgesamt 2 cm kleiner als du, habe aber aufgrund meiner kurzen Dackelbeine (IBL 83 bis 84 cm) dann doch den längeren Rücken. Mein Flux-Sitz (mit dicker Auflage) passt mir aber super. Da stört oder drückt nichts, weder an den Schultern, noch an der Sitzvorderkante (was ja hin und wieder mal bemängelt wurde). Allerdings sitze ich auf dem Flux auch eher aufrecht, was ja auch weniger Druck auf die Schulterblätter ausübt.



Der L-Sitz meines Rainbow Lyra passt meinem Rücken übrigens ebenfalls gut.

 

[rullskidan]

Wie groß bist Du denn? Reicht vielleicht der Verstellbereich des Bodylink-Sitzes nicht aus?

There is enough length too pull out but if you pull it too far to get the flat bit on the upper back it pushes on the neck instead.

 

[rullskidan]

Wenn ein lang eingestellter Bodylink-Sitz noch an den Schultern stört, passt der Flux-Holzsitz wahrscheinlich auch nicht gut.
Bei mir (1,85m mit 89cm Innenbeinlänge) endet der in der Mitte der Schulterblätter. Wenn der Rücken noch länger ist, wird der Flux-Sitz oben sicherlich zu wenig Unterstützung bieten.

I am 1.86 with 89 cm inseam. Almost identical.

 

[rullskidan]

Ich bin zwar insgesamt 2 cm kleiner als du, habe aber aufgrund meiner kurzen Dackelbeine (IBL 83 bis 84 cm) dann doch den längeren Rücken. Mein Flux-Sitz (mit dicker Auflage) passt mir aber super. Da stört oder drückt nichts, weder an den Schultern, noch an der Sitzvorderkante (was ja hin und wieder mal bemängelt wurde). Allerdings sitze ich auf dem Flux auch eher aufrecht, was ja auch weniger Druck auf die Schulterblätter ausübt.
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Der L-Sitz meines Rainbow Lyra passt meinem Rücken übrigens ebenfalls gut.

This looks better for the back but I am a bit worried about "recumbent butt" with that kind of seat. In the picture it looks like there is no "holes" for the sitting bones like on the bodylink and azub seats. A flat area for the sitting bones should in my opinion increase the risk of "recumbent butt". Am I wrong?

 

[schlawag]

worried about "recumbent butt"

die Pferdesattelausbuchtung unten am Beginn der Oberschenkel finde ich ganz gut, um etwas Druck auf das Hinterteil zu nehmen. Grundsätzlich kommt's aber vor allem auf Deinen (speziellen) Rücken an. Mit meinem leichten Rundrücken hab ich z.B. gerne eine Lordosenunterstützung. Eine Unterstützung zwischen den Schulterblättern finde ich sehr angenehm. Die Schulterblätter möchte ich gar nicht unterstützt haben (Relativ kurzer Bacchetta Sitz war mir in meiner bisherigen "Liegeradlaufbahn") abgesehen von einer Einzelanfertigung, die auch noch Lordoseunterstützung und Sattelnase mit einbezieht, am angenehmensten. Mir ist bewusst, dass das atypisch ist, aber das typische Fahrgestell gibt's halt bei den Menschen nicht.

 

[Velo-Phil]

This looks better for the back but I am a bit worried about "recumbent butt" with that kind of seat. In the picture it looks like there is no "holes" for the sitting bones like on the bodylink and azub seats. A flat area for the sitting bones should in my opinion increase the risk of "recumbent butt". Am I wrong?

The BodyLink seat and the Rainbow Lyra seat have a curved support for the sit bones, while the Flux seat is flat. There are a few holes in the wooden seat of the Flux, but these are only for ventilation. But still: the Flux seat is the best for my back'n'butt. Don't worry about a recumbent butt or legs falling asleep.

And the thick mattresses are great. Good comfort and no worry about slipping forward.


But before fitting a Flux seat to the HP bike, could you try the HP ErgoMesh Seat XL or HP ErgoMesh Seat Premium XL instead?

 

[rullskidan]

I think the horse saddle bulge at the bottom of the thighs is good for taking some of the pressure off the rear end. Basically, it depends on your (special) back. With my slightly hunched back, for example, I like lumbar support. I find support between the shoulder blades very comfortable. I don't want any support for the shoulder blades at all (I found the relatively short Bacchetta seat most comfortable in my "recumbent bike career" so far), apart from a custom-made one that also includes lumbar support and a saddle nose. I realize that this is atypical, but there is no such thing as a typical chassis for people.

I find that Bodylink is very much missing lumbar support and that is something I plan to fix by adding extra Ventsit pads in the Lumbar area. I find the Bachetta Recurve seat interesting. Has anyone tried it? It seems to have better lumbar support. The problem I can see it that is could put pressure on the upper back if you have a long back. The second picture is of "Recycled Recumbent" seat - a lot of lumbar support. Most recumbent seats forces your body to be like a banana and that is not natural posture.

 

[rullskidan]

The BodyLink seat and the Rainbow Lyra seat have a curved support for the sit bones, while the Flux seat is flat. There are a few holes in the wooden seat of the Flux, but these are only for ventilation. But still: the Flux seat is the best for my back'n'butt. Don't worry about a recumbent butt or legs falling asleep.

And the thick mattresses are great. Good comfort and no worry about slipping forward.


But before fitting a Flux seat to the HP bike, could you try the HP ErgoMesh Seat XL or HP ErgoMesh Seat Premium XL instead?

Maybe the ErgoMesh premium could be better but I have no dealer in Sweden that has it available for trying and to buy it new separate is 700-800 euro, that feels wrong when I bought my Streetmachine in new condition with 500 km max ridden for 900 euro. And from what I have read it would require a new understeer handle with 65 cm width which I see as a big disadvantage as it would be much more uncomfortable to have the arms that much apart. I am very happy with the underseat 60 cm handle, I can have my arms relaxed at the sides, with 65 cm not so much, those 5 cm makes more difference then what one might think. Test it yourself with a ruler - at 65 cm there is tension in the should area unless you have very wide shoulders.

 

[tieflieger]

That Bachetta Seat is meant for a recumbent like the one pictured, with very low pedals and upright seat. It won't work for yours. It has no support at the shoulders. That only works if u sit nearly upright, the Velotechnik is laying to flat. The lower part of your upper leg will get in to conflict with the seat. About where that guy's shorts end.

Buy a cheap Yoga matt, cut it in pieces and stick them on your current seat. Working from small to larger pieces. Can be cut with normal household scissors. U can make more curvy lumbar parts or lessen the curvature in neck/shoulder area.

 

[Velo-Phil]

Patrik (@Jack-Lee ) used to make seats out of (painted) wood at Velomo.
I don't know if you can still get one of these. But maybe they are perfect for you.